Gigabyte GA-EP45-EXTREME Living Review

[supershanks]

If your running 3.2k you can probably ease back a bit on the PLL maybe 1.56v ??
There always is a frop between the vcore in bios , vcore at Idle & vcore on load.
sounds like your making some good progress

[supershanks]

Bit late in the day but got round to giving Bios F6K a run out. Like earlier bios we continue to see staedy improvement.

New Features
Adds another Memory option, a somewhat odd name on a DDR2 board, DDR3 Write Training
I'm running it on [Enabled]


Benches


Comparison to F6H
Have just changed DDR2 am noe running on CellShock DDR2 1150 5-5-5-18 Micron D9GKx have set them on same timings as the previous Crucial Ballistix for the comparion. There's a slight lift in Everest scores , but the biggest lift is in COU speed with the Wprime test.


Stability


Bios Settings
Had to turn up Dram Sub voltages a notch to get new ram tuned, all other settinngs as previous.

GIGABYTE GA-EP45_EXTREME
[u]MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Turbo
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 7x
Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.+0.50
CPU Frequency ...........................: 4,310Mhz
Clock Chip Control 
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled] 
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............:575Mhz
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:103Mhz
C.I.A. 2........................................:Disabled
Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: 700mv
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: 800mv
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: 0ps
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 0ps
DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance...................: [Turbo]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier ..............:2.00B
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1,150Mhz
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual] 
Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time........................: 5
tRCD .........................................: 5
tRP'...........................................:  5
tRAS..........................................:  18
Advanced Timing Control [Press Enter]
tRRD...........................................:4
tWTR..........................................:4
tWR............................................:8
tRFC...........................................:49
tRTP...........................................:4
Command Rate (CMD) ....................:Auto

Channel A

Channel A Timings Settings [Press Enter] 
Static tRead Value.........................:10
 tRD Phase0 Adjustmen...................:Auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
 tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
 tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:8
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:7
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:7
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:8
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
DDR3 Write Training........................:Enabled
Channel A Driving Settings [Press Enter] 
Driving Strength Profile.................:[OC-1200]

Data Driving Pull-Up Level.............:Auto 
Cmd Driving Pull-Up Level..............:Auto 
Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level.............:Auto 
Clk Driving Pull-Up Level..............:Auto 

Data Driving Pull-Down Level..........:Auto 
Cmd Driving Pull-Down Level...........:Auto 
Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level...........:Auto 
Clk Driving Pull-Down Level............:Auto 

Channel B

Channel B Timings Settings [Press Enter] 
Static tRead Value.........................:10
 tRD Phase0 Adjustmen...................:Auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
 tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
 tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:8
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:7
wr2rd(Different Rank).....................:7
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:8
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
DDR3 Write Training........................:Enabled
Channel B Driving Settings [Press Enter] 
Driving Strength Profile.................:[OC-1200]

Data Driving Pull-Up Level..............:Auto 
Cmd Driving Pull-Up Level...............:Auto 
Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level................:Auto 
Clk Driving Pull-Up Level.................:Auto 

Data Driving Pull-Down Level...........:Auto 
Cmd Driving Pull-Down Level............:Auto 
Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level............:Auto 
Clk Driving Pull-Down Level..............:Auto 

{U]Motherboard Voltage Control{/U]
Voltage Type.………... Normal 
CPU
CPU Vcore….……….........................:1.44375v
CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: 1.34v
CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: 1.62v
CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: 0.813v
CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.........:0.848v
MCH/ICH
MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1.440v
MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; 0.768v
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: 1.050v
ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: 1.540v
ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: 1.100v
DRAM
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.220v
DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: 1.050v
Channel A Reference 0.900V............: 1.050v
Channel B Reference 0.900V............: 1.050v
[b]{U]Advanced Settings[b]{U]
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Disabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]
Note: * refers to 45nm CPU

[some1]

Originally Posted by supershanks

If your running 3.2k you can probably ease back a bit on the PLL maybe 1.56v ??
There always is a frop between the vcore in bios , vcore at Idle & vcore on load.
sounds like your making some good progress

1.58v for PLL did it.

I have gone a few notches since then, got 8x407 and 8x413 now testing at 7x442...

At 3.3ghz my temps are about as far as i wanna go, i am on air.

Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme with 2 64cfm fans, they run at lower speeds because the alarm temps are not reached, but noise is an issue...

Would like to see 6x multi on 500+ fsb but seems far off right now, i like the idea of running the ram 1:1!

I will see how my stability goes, then head there, i guess if temps cannot really go any higher, i only have PLL, termination and mch to play with

[supershanks]

Would like to see 6x multi on 500+ fsb but seems far off right now, i like the idea of running the ram 1:1!

The only real advantage of running 1:1 is that your hopefully running your CPU high , by higher FSB. Maximising CPU speed gives best performance. Your running a Q660 not a wolfdale. Maximum FSB on q6600 is probably around 450~465. If your expecting 500+ then you need a wolfdale. Given the lower FSB restriction the optimum solution is to use a higher strap such as 2.66D or 2.40b

[lvnxtc666]

hi all

im new here been ocing fow about 1 yr i need some help
just got the ep45 extreme put ozc flex 1200mhz in the killed 1 of my dimm slots so i f,,,ed them off
now just got some shitty patriot ram i found laying on mi floor now my chip is q9550 rev C1 running at 4 G
thats 500x8 but prime only runs for a split sec were cld i be going wrong
thanks in advance o im under water

[lvnxtc666]

GIGABYTE GA-EP45_EXTREME Q9550 Gigabyte 9800 GX2
[u]MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster ...............: AUTO
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 8x
Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.+0.0
CPU Frequency ...........................: 4,000Mhz
Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............:500Mhz
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:104Mhz
C.I.A. 2........................................isabled
Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: 800mv
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: 800mv
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: 50ps
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 50ps
DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance...................: [Turbo]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: 400mhz
System Memory Multiplier ..............:2.00D
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1,000Mhz
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [AUTO]
Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time........................: 5
tRCD .........................................: 5
tRP'...........................................: 5
tRAS..........................................: 15
Advanced Timing Control [Press Enter]
tRRD...........................................:3
tWTR..........................................:3
tWR............................................:6
tRFC...........................................:52
tRTP...........................................:3
Command Rate (CMD) ....................:Auto

Channel A

Channel A Timings Settings [Press Enter]
Static tRead Value.........................:10
tRD Phase0 Adjustmen...................:Auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:6
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:6
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:5
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:8
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
DDR3 Write Training........................:AUTO
Channel A Driving Settings [Press Enter]

Data Driving Pull-Up Level.............:Auto
Cmd Driving Pull-Up Level..............:Auto
Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level.............:Auto
Clk Driving Pull-Up Level..............:Auto

Data Driving Pull-Down Level..........:Auto
Cmd Driving Pull-Down Level...........:Auto
Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level...........:Auto
Clk Driving Pull-Down Level............:Auto

Channel B

Channel B Timings Settings [Press Enter]
Static tRead Value.........................:10
tRD Phase0 Adjustmen...................:Auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:6
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:6
wr2rd(Different Rank).....................:5
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:8
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
DDR3 Write Training........................:Enabled
Channel B Driving Settings [Press Enter]

Data Driving Pull-Up Level..............:Auto
Cmd Driving Pull-Up Level...............:Auto
Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level................:Auto
Clk Driving Pull-Up Level.................:Auto

Data Driving Pull-Down Level...........:Auto
Cmd Driving Pull-Down Level............:Auto
Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level............:Auto
Clk Driving Pull-Down Level..............:Auto

{U]Motherboard Voltage Control{/U]
Voltage Type.………... Normal
CPU
CPU Vcore….……….........................:1.38125v
CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: 1.36v
CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: 1.66v
CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: 0.911v
CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.........:1.001v
MCH/ICH
MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1.460v
MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; 0.876v
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: 0.940v
ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: 1.560v
ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: 1.100v
DRAM
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.200v
DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: 0.940v
Channel A Reference 0.900V............: 0.940v
Channel B Reference 0.900V............: 0.940v
[b]{U]Advanced Settings[b]{U]
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Disabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]
Note: * refers to 45nm CPU

[lvnxtc666]

its just not high enough fsb and stability is an issue

[supershanks]

Hi welcome to the forums
What is the spec for your patriot ?? Ie rated speed timing & vdimm ??
be good if you could Add Your System Specs To Your Profile please.

few things to try :-
1) Under Driving settings for both channel A & B :-
select Driving Strength Profile:[1066Mhz]

2) Advanced Timing Control [Press Enter]
Try the 2nd value
tRRD...........................................:3 --> 4
tWTR..........................................:3--> 4
tWR............................................:6-->10
tRFC...........................................:52--> 55
tRTP...........................................:3-->4

3) Try for both channels
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:6--> 8
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:6-->8
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:5-->7
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:8--> 9

4) Dram Voltages
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: 0.940v -->1.00v
DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: 0.940v--->1.00v
Channel A Reference 0.900V............: 0.940v--->1.00v
Channel B Reference 0.900V............: 0.940v--->1.00v

5) CPU Voltages
For 8x500 these look high
CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: 1.36v--> try 1.34v
CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: 1.66v--> 1.62v maybe 1.64v for a qauad not sure
CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: 0.911v = 67% of CPU termination try ~63%
CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.........:1.001v = 74% of CPU Term try ~67%

let us know how it goes

[supershanks]

4,600 8.5x542@2.40b 1,300Mhz 5-5-5-18
The 2GB CellShock DDR2 PC2-9200 (1150MHz) is playing nicely with this board and bios F6K



Benches


Bios Settings

GIGABYTE GA-EP45_EXTREME
[u]MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Turbo
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 8x
Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.+0.50
CPU Frequency ...........................: 4,600Mhz
Clock Chip Control 
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled] 
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............:542Mhz
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:103Mhz
C.I.A. 2......................................: Disabled
Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: 700mv
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: 800mv
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: 0ps
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 0ps
DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance...................: [Turbo]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier ..............:2.40B
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1,301Mhz
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual] 
Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time........................: 5
tRCD .........................................: 5
tRP'...........................................:  5
tRAS..........................................:  18
Advanced Timing Control [Press Enter]
tRRD...........................................:4
tWTR..........................................:8
tWR............................................:10
tRFC...........................................:42
tRTP...........................................:4
Command Rate (CMD) ....................:Auto

Channel A

Channel A Timings Settings [Press Enter] 
Static tRead Value.........................:Auto
 tRD Phase0 Adjustmen...................:Auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
 tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
 tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:8 
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:8
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:7
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:9
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
DDR3 Write Training .......................: Enabled
Channel A Driving Settings [Press Enter] 
Driving Strength Profile:[OC-1333]
Data Driving Pull-Up Level.............:Auto 
Cmd Driving Pull-Up Level..............:Auto 
Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level...............:Auto 
Clk Driving Pull-Up Level...............:Auto 

Data Driving Pull-Down Level.........:Auto 
Cmd Driving Pull-Down Level..........:Auto 
Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level...........:Auto 
Clk Driving Pull-Down Level............:Auto 

Channel B

Channel B Timings Settings [Press Enter] 
Static tRead Value.........................:10
 tRD Phase0 Adjustmen...................:Auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
 tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
 tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:8
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:8
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:7
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:9
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
DDR3 Write Training .......................: Enabled
Channel B Driving Settings [Press Enter] 
Driving Strength Profile:[OC-1333]

Data Driving Pull-Up Level............:Auto 
Cmd Driving Pull-Up Level............:Auto 
Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level.............:Auto 
Clk Driving Pull-Up Level..............:Auto 

Data Driving Pull-Down Level............:Auto 
Cmd Driving Pull-Down Level............:Auto 
Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level.............:Auto 
Clk Driving Pull-Down Level..............:Auto 

{U]Motherboard Voltage Control{/U]
Voltage Type.………... Normal 
CPU
CPU Vcore….……….........................:1.475v
CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: 1.340v
CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: 1.620v
CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: 0.813v
CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:0.848v
MCH/ICH
MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........:1.480 v
MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; 0.788v
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: 1.180v
ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: 1.540v
ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: 1.100v
DRAM
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.40v
DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: 1.160v
Channel A Reference 0.900V............: 1.160v
Channel B Reference 0.900V............: 1.160v
[b]{U]Advanced Settings[b]{U]
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Disabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]
Note: * refers to 45nm CPU

[lvnxtc666]

supershanks that diddent work it just reverted to stock even raising vcore didnt help im baffeled this chip love so much voltage anything lower then 1.875 doesnt work what elce can i try i can get 480 stable but

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