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    Remove CrazyCool CPU/NB Lower Heatsink

    Fairly decent instructions are given on page 16 of the manual.

    1) Remove the 3 small screws from around the cpu area.
    1

    2

    3


    2) Unscrew the 2 x spring nuts on Northbridge.







    3) Resecure Northbridge.
    Insert the 2 spare bolts provided with the mobo into the underside as shown. Then insert and tighten up northbridge spring screws (as shown in 2) above.)

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    Check out the Heatpipes

    When I first took this mobo out of the box i was struck by it's weight, so much so i weighed it

    Weighing in at 1.125KG (about 2.5ibs.) it's substantial. By comparison the board i've removed Asus P5k Deluxe Wifi is 0.9kg.


    It's not hard to see where the extra weight comes from:-
    Not couloured allow but your actual copper


    A routine task I always do with a new mobo is to remove the heatpipes and reapply thermal paste, to improve cooling.

    Undoing the SB spring screws and releasing the plastic push throughs on the mossfet, releases the heatpipes


    As you can see all of the blocks are well covered with Thermal Tape.
    So all i did was resecure them
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    Bios

    Pictures are taken from the F5G Bios d.5/10/07

    1) Main Menu


    2) Standard Cmos Featues


    3) Advanced Bios Features
    Key OC settings here are configuring the CPU Options.


    Hard Drive boot order use this sub menu, to select the drive (or raid) to boot from.


    4) Integrated Peripherals


    5) Power Management Setup


    6) PnP/PCI Configurations


    7) PCHealth Status
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    MB Intelligent Tweaker (M.I.T.)

    Pictures are taken from the F5G Bios d.5/10/07


    Robust Graphics Booster - helps to enhance the performance of the graphics chip and
    memory.
    C.I.A.2 Damn spy's get everywhere it's CPU Intelligent Accelerator 2 -
    Disabled Disables the use of C.I.A.2. (Default)
    Cruise Increases CPU frequency by 5% or 7% depending on CPU loading.
    Sports Increases CPU frequency by 7% or 9% depending on CPU loading.
    Racing Increases CPU frequency by 9% or 11% depending on CPU loading.
    Turbo Increases CPU frequency by 15% or 17% depending on CPU loading.
    Full Thrust Increases CPU frequency by 17% or 19% depending on CPU loading.
    Nothing new just new name (well to me) if you want to play with it fine, i'll just be leaving it disabled & manually overclocking.

    Performance Enhance Options Standard , Turbo and Extreme. Think these are like the Asus transaction booster. Will test later.

    System Memory Multiplier Select ratio and base at which memory will run to FSB.
    Options:-




    THe straps are summarised below:-
    Last edited by supershanks; 27-10-2007 at 18:33.

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    MB Intelligent Tweaker (M.I.T.) (Continued)

    Memory Sub Timings & voltages



    System Voltage Control - Can be Auto or Manual - On Auto BIOS automatically set the system voltages as required.

    DDR2 OverVoltage Control - This is voltage over the Standard 1.8v DDR2 Spec. So if you want 2.2v then set DDR2 OverVoltage = 0.40v
    Max overvoltage = 1.55v = 3.35v , more than enough to make your ram toasty


    PCI-E OverVoltage, FSB OverVoltage Control & (G)MCH OverVoltage Control (MCH=NorthBridge ) all work in the same way. Increments are 0.05v

    Some Settings are Hidden, CPU GTLREF1 Voltage Ratio & CPU GTLREF2 Voltage Ratio. To access these press [CTRL] + [F1] keys from the main menu.


    Vcore CPU Voltage Control - Max of 2.35v gives plenty of room


    CPU GTLREF1


    CPU GTLREF2
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    Stable - 9x400

    Base Camp established
    CPU-Z Database (ID : 260619)

    Prime run of 13hrs (we changed the clocks in the UK today Clocks Change Back An Hour so the 12hrs you see in shot = 13Hrs )

    13Hr Prime Stable (blend) 9x400@ 2.66C = 8:6 = Mem = 1064 VC = 1.425v
    Bios = F5H_BETA
    Don't usually use everest for screenie, but CPU-Z couldn't get the 1600(400fsb)strap



    Settings used:-
    Code:
    MB Intelligent Tweaker (MIT)
    Robust Graphics Booster: TURBO
    CPU Clock Ratio: 9x
    CPU Host Clock Control: Enabled
    CPU Host Frequency(Mhz) : 400
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) :105
    C.I.A.2: Disabled
    Performance Enhance : Standard - Will Raise next time:lol:
    System Memory Multiplier 2.66D ( = FSBx1.33 (or 8:6 x ddr2 ) Base 400x4=1600
    Memory Frequency(Mhz): 1064
    DRAM Timing Selectable : Manual
    Standard Timing ControlCAS Latency Time: : Auto  =5
    DRAM RAS# to CAS# : Auto =7 (will tighten at 5)
    DRAM RAS# Precharge : Auto = 7  (will tighten at 5)
    Precharge Delay(tRAS) : 12
    Advanced Timing Control
    ACT to ACT Delay(tRRD) : Auto
    Rank Write to READ Delay : Auto
    Write To Precharge Delay : Auto
    Refresh to ACT Delay : 35
    Read To Precharge Delay  Auto: 
    tRD : Auto
    tRD Phase Adjustment : Auto
    Command to #CS Timing: :2
    Clock Driving and Skew Control
    CPU/PCIEX Clock Driving Control : 1000
    CPU Clock Skew Control : Normal 
    (G)MCH Clock Skew Control : Normal
    System Voltage Control 
    DDR2 OverVoltage Control : 0.35 giving vdimm 2.15v (seems to overvolt looking at bios need to get mm out)
    PCI-E OverVoltage Control :  0.2
    FSB OverVoltage Control : 0.2
    (G)MCH OverVoltage Control : 0.175
    MCH Reference Voltage Control : Normal
    DDR Reference Voltage Control : Normal
    DDR Termination Voltage Control : Normal
    CPU GTLREF1 Voltage* : Normal
    CPU GTLREF2 Voltage* : Normal
    CPU Voltage Control :1.425
    Normal CPU Vcore : 1.2625
    
    Advanced Bios Features
    CPU Multi-Threading: Enabled
    Limit CPUID Max to 3: Disabled
    No-Execute Memory Protect: Disabled
    CPU Enhanced Halt(CIE): Disabled
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2 : Enabled
    CPU EIST Function: Disabled
    Virtuaalization Technology: Disabled
    
    Note: * Items are Hidden press 
    [CTRL] + [F1] from the bios main menu to access.
    It took a bit of playing aboput trying to guesstimate the vcore.
    The 1.425 is based on my p5k bios setting 1.375v for the same clock + 0.0575 which was the droop i was seeing between bios & load on the x38, that gives 1.4325v, on a whim I ran just below that.

    Intrerestingly enough the actual according to cpu-z & mbm was 1.376v
    comparing this to Asus P5K @9x400 actual per cpu-z = 1.344v So I may leave it priming tonight at 1.40625v to see how that goes.

    Update 29th
    Reduced vcore & ran overnight, as i thought 1.40625vc has worked. When looking at the load vcore of 1.344v that's now the same as that shown on my p5k run so i'm happy.

    Changes to Bios settings:-
    1) vcore 1.425 to 1.40625
    2) Performance Enhance : from Standard to Extreme
    3)
    Code:
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time: 5
    DRAM RAS# to CAS# : Auto =7 (will tighten at 5)
    DRAM RAS# Precharge : Auto = 7  (will tighten at 5)
    Precharge Delay(tRAS) : 12
    Advanced Timing Control
    ACT to ACT Delay(tRRD) : 4
    Rank Write to READ Delay : 4
    Write To Precharge Delay : 8
    Refresh to ACT Delay : 30
    Read To Precharge Delay  4
    tRD : 6
    tRD Phase Adjustment : Auto
    Command to #CS Timing: :2
    VDroop
    PQ6
    Bios = 1.40625v
    vcore idle = 1.392v
    vcore load= 1.344v
    vdroop 0.048v

    Have read that increasing the PCI-E Overvoltage Control and / or FSB Overvoltage Control help reduce droop, i'll have a test and see if it does later.

    9x400@2.66C Benches
    Last edited by supershanks; 29-10-2007 at 17:46.

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    >4K Shots & benches

    Learning about these bios settings , if anyone want's to lend a hand with any suggestions , please shout up
    Thought i'd give this a quick run as i have a p5k run to compare it with.

    CPU-Z Validation 9x450 X38

    9x450@2.4B(5:6) 1080 vcore = 1.525v (bios) Bios F5H BETA


    Ran this as a rough comparison to this
    9x450 P5K Run (1.4875v VC

    Settings:-
    Code:
    Bios F5H BETA
    MB Intelligent Tweaker (MIT)
    Robust Graphics Booster: Turbo
    CPU Clock Ratio: 9x
    CPU Host Clock Control: Enab
    CPU Host Frequency(Mhz) :450
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) : 105
    C.I.A.2: Disabled
    Performance Enhance : TURBO
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD) 2.4B 
    Memory Frequency(Mhz): 1080
    DRAM Timing Selectable : 5
    Standard Timing ControlCAS Latency Time: : 5
    DRAM RAS# to CAS# : 5
    DRAM RAS# Precharge : 5
    Precharge Delay(tRAS) : 12
    Advanced Timing Control
    ACT to ACT Delay(tRRD) : 3
    Rank Write to READ Delay : 3
    Write To Precharge Delay : 3
    Refresh to ACT Delay : 30
    Read To Precharge Delay :  8
    tRD : Auto
    tRD Phase Adjustment : Auto
    Command to #CS Timing: : Auto
    Clock Driving and Skew Control
    CPU/PCIEX Clock Driving Control : 1000
    CPU Clock Skew Control : Normal 
    (G)MCH Clock Skew Control : Normal
    System Voltage Control 
    DDR2 OverVoltage Control : 0.40
    PCI-E OverVoltage Control : 0.20
    FSB OverVoltage Control : 0.20
    (G)MCH OverVoltage Control : 0.175
    MCH Reference Voltage Control : Normal
    DDR Reference Voltage Control : Normal
    DDR Termination Voltage Control : Normal
    CPU GTLREF1 Voltage* : Normal
    CPU GTLREF2 Voltage* : Normal
    CPU Voltage Control : 1.525v
    Normal CPU Vcore : 1..2625
    
    Advanced Bios Features
    CPU Multi-Threading
    Limit CPUID Max to 3
    No-Execute Memory Protect
    CPU Enhanced Halt(CIE)
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2
    CPU EIST Function
    Virtuaalization Technology
    
    Note: * Items are Hidden press 
    [CTRL] + [F1] from the bios main menu to access.
    Last edited by supershanks; 28-10-2007 at 19:00.

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    8x465 Stable

    CPU-Z Validation 3720 MHz (465x8@1:1) ) Max FSB so far still a lot to test

    3720 = 8x465@2b(1:1) 930 4,4,4,12 1.45vc (Bios)


    Benches


    Code:
    Bios F5H
    
    MB Intelligent Tweaker (MIT)
    Robust Graphics Booster: Turbo
    CPU Clock Ratio: 8
    CPU Host Clock Control: Enabled
    CPU Host Frequency(Mhz) : 465
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) :105
    C.I.A.2: Disabled
    Performance Enhance : Extreme
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD) 2.00B (1:1)
    Memory Frequency(Mhz): 930
    DRAM Timing Selectable : Manual  
    Standard Timing ControlCAS Latency Time: : 4
    DRAM RAS# to CAS# :4
    DRAM RAS# Precharge :4
    Precharge Delay(tRAS) :12
    Advanced Timing Control 
    ACT to ACT Delay(tRRD) :3
    Rank Write to READ Delay :3
    Write To Precharge Delay :6
    Refresh to ACT Delay : 35
    Read To Precharge Delay 3: 
    tRD :Auto
    tRD Phase Adjustment :Auto
    Command to #CS Timing: :2T
    Clock Driving and Skew Control
    CPU/PCIEX Clock Driving Control : 1000
    CPU Clock Skew Control : Normal 
    (G)MCH Clock Skew Control : Normal
    System Voltage Control Manual
    DDR2 OverVoltage Control : 0.4
    PCI-E OverVoltage Control : 0.35
    FSB OverVoltage Control : 0.2
    (G)MCH OverVoltage Control :0.175
    MCH Reference Voltage Control : Normal
    DDR Reference Voltage Control : Normal
    DDR Termination Voltage Control : Normal
    CPU GTLREF1 Voltage* : Normal
    CPU GTLREF2 Voltage* : Normal
    CPU Voltage Control : 1.45
    Normal CPU Vcore : 1.2625
    
    Advanced Bios Features
    CPU Multi-Threading : Enabled
    Limit CPUID Max to 3: Disabled
    No-Execute Memory Protect: Disabled
    CPU Enhanced Halt(CIE): Disabled
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2: Disabled
    CPU EIST Function: Disabled
    Virtuaalization Technology: Disabled
    
    Note: * Items are Hidden press [CTRL] + [F1] from the bios main menu to access.
    Lower Fsb doesn't seem to be a problem
    9x420@2.66C = 1117 5,5,5,12 Vcore can probably be turned down a notch.
    Last edited by supershanks; 02-11-2007 at 22:35.

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    480 Fsb

    Just got the mix right on the memory timings & went from 460 through to 480 FSB , using an 8 multi. Xp blue screened on loading at 485.

    8x480@2=960 4,4,4,12 v2.2 Vcore 1.425(bios)

    Think this is amongst the highest FSBs i've had on my Commando and P5K Deluxe.


    One thing I must mention is this board's overclocking recovery. It behaves extremely well, believe me it's been tested thoroughly
    If it won't post it reposts using the spd memory settings , disabling CPU Host Clock Control and System Memory Multiplier. You can tell by the sounds if you've scored

    I've only used the cmos jumper once, after flashing the bios last friday, that was probably not required, but what ya gonna do

    This isn't prime stable yet, think i'll try a bit higher before looking at stability What do you reckon??
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    A another beautiful review This forums just keeps on getting better & better

    I know it's early but any idea what's a better board GIGABYTE GA-X38-DQ6 or the Maximus Formula "SE" for gaming & editing?
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