DFI DK X58-T3eH6 Living Review - Page 4

supershanks · #31 25-01-2009, 10:14

Bios detail and Template added.
Please feel free to :-

thanks

Now the fun bit

MustRotate · #32 25-01-2009, 10:59

Nice review but now for the logical question: is this different in any way(from hardware point of view) to the UT X58? So if one would want to watercool it you would you need the extra heatsinks on the UT or are they the same just the cooling differs?

supershanks · #33 25-01-2009, 13:02

Quote:

Nice review but now for the logical question: is this different in any way(from hardware point of view) to the UT X58? So if one would want to watercool it you would you need the extra heatsinks on the UT or are they the same just the cooling differs?

Yes hardware wise there atre several differences between this aand the UT.

PWM DK=Hybrid 6+2+2 v UT=8-Phase Volterra Full Digital PWM
Sound DK = on board Realtek ALC889 for 8CH HD v Bernstein audio module
Gfx = DK = 2-way SLI or Quad CrossFireX v UT = 3 graphics cards in 3-way SLI or Quad CrossFireX configuration
Lan DK Marvell 88E8053 PCIE Gigabit v Marvell 88E8052 and Marvell 88E8053 PCIE Gigabit LAN controllers

Above are what come to mind, may well be others i've forgotten.

I'm not sure what you mean

Quote:

So if one would want to watercool it you would you need the extra heatsinks on the UT or are they the same just the cooling differs?

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MustRotate · #34 25-01-2009, 13:15

Original:
So if one would want to watercool it you would you need the extra heatsinks on the UT or are they the same just the cooling differs?
What I was meaning(tired and that had effects):
So if one would want to watercool it would you need the extra heatsinks on the UT or are they the same,just the cooling differs?
You responded to the question fully in you post above.

Anglo · #35 25-01-2009, 14:10

Great review there!
You already point out the differences between this board and the UT.
You summed them all up there, and all I can add is a few more fan-connectors and flame freezer (?) on the UT, but that's it. Now the big question: Is it worth the £60 ish difference?

supershanks · #36 25-01-2009, 16:52

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Is it worth the £60 ish difference?

watch this space & clunks

supershanks · #37 25-01-2009, 17:07

Thought I might as well start of revisiting Dave's early clocks . DFI Lanparty UT X58-T3eH8 - First Tests and Overclocks

To recap all is on auto except BCLK 133--> 180
Benches

OCCT , Nuclearus & Passmark

3DMark06 2xAti HD4670 Crossfire @stock
It's weird that I can run this. According to the manual & past experience I need to have 2 bridges to run these cards in crossfire.
The bridges I have been using are too narrow, see below, the top bridge is the right width, and is provided with this board.

According to the manual for the graphics card, I need two bridges:

Certainly on P45 I couldn't get crossfire without 2x bridges and I had to disconnect second card to get into vista during this build. I decided to give it another go this am and it's running.
Looking at database I'm about +500 oints which i guess is down to 2x16bandwidth and

supershanks · #38 25-01-2009, 23:09

4000 20x200 Ram 8 = 1600 8-8-8-21
Benches

Stability

Bios Settings

Code:

DFI DK X58-T3eH6
Genie BIOS
CPU Features Sub Menu
Set VR Current Limit Max.......: Disabled
Thermal Management Control.....: Disabled
EIST Function..................: Disabled
CxE Function...................: Disable
Execute Disable Bit............: Disabled
Virtualisation Technology......: Disabled
***** Logical Processor Setting *****
Intel HT technology............: Enabled
Active Processor Cores.........: All

DRAM Timing Sub Menu
Memory Control Setting.........:Auto 
Memory LowGap..................: 1536M
DRAM Command Rate..............: 1N
CAS Latency Time (tCL).........: 8
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRP).......: 8
RAS# Precharge (tRP)...........: 8
Precharge Delay (tRAS).........: 21
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC)........: Auto
Write to Pre Delay (tWR).......: Auto
Rank Write to Read (tWTR)......: Auto
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)........: Auto
Row Cycle Time (tRC)...........: Auto
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP).....: Auto
Four ACT WIN Time (tFAW).......: Auto

Voltage Setting Sub Menu
O.C. Shut Down Free............: Enable
CPU VID Control................: 1.4375v Updated see below 1.375v
Vcore Droop (loadline) Scale...:100%
Vcore Mode.....................:Ignore
Vcore Auto PSI.................:Disabled
OCP............................:140A
DRAM Bus Voltage...............:1.65v
DRAM PWM Switch Frequency......: Nominal Frequency
DRAM PWM Phase Control.........: 2 Phase Operation
CPU VTT Special Add............: Auto
CPU VTT Voltage................: 1.40v Updated See below 1.24v
VTT PWM Switch Frequency.......: Nominal Frequency
VTT PWM Phase Control..........: 2 Phase Operation
CPU PLL Voltage................: 1.80v
IOH/ICH 1.1v Voltage...........: 1.10v
IOH Analog Voltage.............: 1.10v
ICH 1.5 Voltage................: 1.5v
ICH 1.05v Voltage..............: 1.05v
DIMM 1/2 DQ/DQSTB Bus VREF.....:0 %
DIMM 3/4 DQ/DQSTB Bus VREF.....: 0%
DIMM 5/6 DQ/DQSTB Bus VREF.....: 0%
DIMM 1/2 ADDR/CMD Bus VREF.....: +11% I copied these from Dave's settings, I got the nextt 3 wrong At 
DIMM 3/4 ADDR/CMD Bus VREF.....: -11%  -11% so I guess they might be lefyt at 0 ??
DIMM 5/6 ADDR/CMD Bus VREF.....:-11%
CPU Core DQ/DQSTB Bus VREF.....: %
CPU QPI Drive Strength.........: Normal
IOH QPI Drive Strength.........: Normal

Genie Main Menu(Cont'd)
Exit Setup Shut Down...........: Mode 2
O.C. Fail Retry Counter........: Enabled
O.C. Fail CMOS Reloaded........: Disabled
PPM Function...................: Enabled
Turbo Mode Function............: Disabled
x 1 Core Max Turbo Ratio ......: Enabled
x 2 Core Max Turbo Ratio.......: 21x
x 3 Core Max Turbo Ratio.......: 21x
x 4 Core Max Turbo Ratio.......: 21x

CPU Non-Turbo Clock Ratio......: 20x

*BCLK/UCLK/QPI Controller Settings*

QPI Control Settings...........: Enabled
QPI Link Fast Mode.............: Enabled
QPI Frequency GT/Sec...........: 4.800GT/s (BCLK*18*2)
CPU Base Clock (BCLK)..........: 200MHz
Boot Up CPU Base Clock.........: Auto
PCIE Clock.....................: 103MHz
DRAM Frequency.................: BCLK*08 MHz
Uncore Frequency...............: BCLK*16 MHz

CPU Spread Spectrum............: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum...........: Disabled

Update:
Have been rerunning stability tests after reducing Vcore & VTT:-
Am now down to
Vcore=1.375v
Vtt=1.24v
This is 1hr Hyperthreading Stable

Temps, from Coretemp0.99.4.65 log with tJmax =100C

Note: % load is over OCCT run, including the Idle testing at start and end of run.

Kidda! · #39 31-01-2009, 02:08

Its looking good supershanks , cpu volts are a bit high for me though , whats it looking like on the cooling side of things ? reported temps etc

cheers

supershanks · #40 31-01-2009, 10:45

I'd seen the Hyper threading as Dual Core checkbox in OCCT3 (5th line down, Centre) :

It wasn't until I was running Coretemp alongside OCCT3 that I realised the significance of the 4 core 2 thread impact on benchmark loading.

You can see from the above that CPU loading is only around 50%. In other words the cores are loaded 100% but only using 4 threads NOT 8.

Ticking the box in OCCT runs with the full 8 threads on full load:-

Impact of this is that average temps on Full 8x threads will be higher. If running with Hyper Threading unticked, your stability may not be as good as you think, as your not testing on full load, you may need extra Volts to get there.

Temperature & load Stats for the two methods are:-
Unticked x4 Threads

Ticked x8 Threads