Asus P5E Living Review

[MOFO-64]

Originally Posted by GSte

Could This Be A Possible Cause Of Dead Ballistix?

Yeah but that's 12/12/07, his RMA'd set would be replaced and as he said, his now 2nd set of ballistix (which I'm sure he checked the spreader on) are dead and/or throwing up loadsa errors. That's 2 sets, with the latest having no heatspreader problems.

His mobo also died, not a good set of events IMO.

I ain't slatin' Kev, just voicing my opinion. I don't like to see various hardware dying in regular occurance with the same user in a short period......I've learned what that means after 25yrs of pc's.

Sure I've had a mobo die during a bad bios flash (power-cut induced)......a few psu's have worn out in various machines over the years.....and a mobo once turned up which was D.O.A, but other than that I can safely say I've never killed a component yet......not once. Albeit with a little luck thrown in perhaps, but I've never been one to RMA virtually every set of ram I get 'cos it won't run 100mhz over rated speed with dramatically reduced timings on 10% higher vdimm. These days more and more oc'ers are RMA'ing virtually every purchase they make and contrary to what death may say, unfortunately you're doing it wrong when you kill something. lol

If it worked normally when you purchased it, and you've OC'd it in any way and it fails....YOU are to blame, not the inferior quality of the product you purchased.

Anyhoo......nice cpuz verification

That's defo poor of crucial to be applying hs's like that.....some quality control

[GSte]

I meant the whole thread really, just shows how many people have had that RAM die on them and why we think that may be.... personally I've never had to RMA any RAM, and I've had probably all the major brands, apart from this ballistix where I've sent back 4 sets out of 9 so far. Two of them had been overvolted by +0.1v, but the other two were running at the correct speed and timings, and being actively cooled, and they tested fine when I first got them. It could be that both boards' were overvolting the RAM, but seems unlikely, and the heatspreaders should definitely not be like that.

Did sound a bit like you were slating Kev though which was half the reason I posted:vanish:

[death]

mofo if nothing has died on you when overclocking then you are doing it all wrong m8

[MOFO-64]

Originally Posted by GSte

I meant the whole thread really, just shows how many people have had that RAM die on them and why we think that may be.... personally I've never had to RMA any RAM, and I've had probably all the major brands, apart from this ballistix where I've sent back 4 sets out of 9 so far. Two of them had been overvolted by +0.1v, but the other two were running at the correct speed and timings, and being actively cooled, and they tested fine when I first got them. It could be that both boards' were overvolting the RAM, but seems unlikely, and the heatspreaders should definitely not be like that.

Did sound a bit like you were slating Kev though which was half the reason I posted:vanish:

No probs mate. I've seen Kev around on a few sites for a couple of years now....I know he's a savvy guy, just thought I'd voice an opinion

Originally Posted by death

mofo if nothing has died on you overclocking then you are doing it all wrong m8

lmao....ok you win

I'll go dig out a 1200mhz duron and cook it just to prove I got what it takes to hang with the big-boys

[k3vst3r]

Just noticed you think i've blown 2 sets Mofo, nope not 2 sets.. actually i said one stick meaning 1 sole 1GB stick. Run of events Gigabyte P35C DS3R started to die slowly at first i thought it was the the memory because everything pointed to the memory which i later found out to be the motherboard's memory controller aka northbridge.
Before i knew this i attempted to stabilize the memory by setting 0.4v+ which isn't 2.2v on that board more like 2.3 to 2.35v real. Bunch of monkeys could do better voltage regulation Anyhow in attempt to make things stable which it didn't the memory got bit screwed me thinks, hence why with a new board its pretty much dead from the get go.
I've managed to get my last remaining stick of crucial ballistix working again but required more voltage than i would like to do so.

To sums things up any overclocking increases chances of components dying

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[death]

so kev what sort of speed you up to stable

and are you going to stop with the old bios now

[k3vst3r]

I'll continue to use the first bios 0107 for now. Stability wise she'll bench anything around 3800Mhz to 4000Mhz depending on application.
Must say this board is very picky about crucial ballistix ram, to run even dual channel need minimum of 1.65v on the northbridge else board will not p.o.s.t which results in having to drop back to single channel then readjusting the bios for the extra voltage.
Found very sweet spot with the memory best divider seem's to be 5:6, performance level 7. Also found it best to let the board choose your memory timings as it's very sensitive, one bad timing results in no p.o.s.t mostly.

1066Mhz 5-5-5-12 Performance level 8 Single Channel Everest Memory Read


1066Mhz 5-5-5-15 Performance level 7 Dual Channel Everest Memory Read


1100Mhz 5-5-5-15 Performance level 7 Dual Channel Everest Memory Read


1151Mhz 5-5-5-15 Performance level 7 Dual Channel Everest Memory Read

[death]

really good work so when we going to see some benching from you m8

[Kelainefes]

I have a P5E mobo aswell and a C2D E6750 wich runs stable at 3560 (445x8), 1.475 vCore in the bios but 1.4080 after vDrop under load.
I started overclocking only in the last few days when i got a nice Thermalright SI 128 SE and a SilenX 120x38mm fan and i gotta say the heat is very much kept to a minimum at the moment Prime 95 can barely get to 56 C but in real use, encoding a movie in HD x264 while watching one in the same format stays between 44 and 48 C.

On topic, if I were you I would try setting the RAM to 1:1 and tighten timings...
I have cheap GEIL modules running DDR2 890 at 445 FSB with 2.1 V (AI gear sais 2.6, but that can't be accurate, i think modules would fry very fast at that voltage and my probe thermometer says 43 under Prime95 taped to the side of the heat spreader), and i get 9250 MB/sec read speed in Everest (4.20.something).
I have tweaked all timings in manual, even the secondary timings and they DO make a big difference.
If anyone has those same modules from GEIL (they are rated DDR2 6400 4-4-4-12, orange heatspreaders), and is interested in the timings and other settings i will post them.