Abit IX38 Quad GT - Living Review II

[Ademcg]

D'oh !! Just saw the bottom of your post

[michaeld]

[b][QUOTE=supershanks;4504]Manuals



You are THE MAN! Your post is now officially the only place on the entire internet to download the IX38 manual! Thank you.

[supershanks]

No worries michaeld
Was suprised by the bonus one for the Max, obviously were supposed to use the same cd

[Ademcg]

hey Supershanks, what memory you running on your board ?

I am running Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2 PC2-8500C5 1066MHz Dual Channel Kit but x 2 [Total 4 GB]

Looking even at stock I think the thing fails Prime because of my memory...what divider should I be using for lowish FSb, i.e. Stock (278 MHz) up to say 333Mhz ?

I am very unfamiliar with the Intel stuff coming from AMD / DFI kit...where harsh memory dividers don't really hinder performance...I guess on the Intel side it does ???

Oh and why does it always fail first on Core #1 ?
Core #4 seems never to halt in Prime

CPU OPERATING SPEED................ - USER DEFINE
EXTERNAL CLOCK..................... - 272 MHz
MULTIPLIER FACTOR.................. - x 9
ESTIMATED NEW CPU CLOCK.......... - 2448 MHz
DRAM SPEED (CPU/DRAM)........... - DDR2- 816
PCI EXPRESS CLOCK.................. - 105MHz

VOLTAGE CONTROL:

CPU CORE VOLTAGE................... - 1.30V
CPU Core Voltage Offset............ -0.00 V
Target CPU Core Voltage............ - 1.30V
DDR2 VOLTAGE....................... - 2.25V
CPU VTT VOLTAGE.................... - 1.20V
MCH 1.25V VOLTAGE.................. - 1.30V
ICH 1.05V VOLTAGE.................. - 1.1V
ICHIO 1.5V VOLTAGE................. - 1.50V
DDR2 REFERENCE VOLTAGE............. Default
CPU GTLREF 0+2..................... -67 %
CPU GTLREF 1+4..................... - 67%

ADVANCED CHIPSET FEATURES:

DRAM TIMING SELECTABLE............. - SPD
CAS LATENCY TIME (TCL)............... -
RAS TO CAS DELAY (TRCD)............. -
RAS PRECHARGE (TRP)......... .......... -
PRECHARGE DELAY (TRAS).............. -
REFRESH CYCLE TIME (TRFC)........... -
WRITE RECOVERY TIME (TWR)......... -
WRITE TO READ DELAY (TWTR)........ -
ACT TO ACT TIME (TRRD)............... -
READ TO PRECHARGE (TRTP)............ -
COMMAND RATE....................... -
PCIE Root Port Function............ - V1.0A
PEG FORCE X1....................... - DISABLED
INIT DISPLAY FIRST................. - PCIEX

ADVANCED BIOS FEATURES / CPU FEATURES:
THERMAL CONTROL.................. - Dlsabled
C1E FUNCTION....................... - DISABLED
EXECUTE DISABLE BIT................ - DISABLED
VIRTUALISATION TECHNOLOGY.......... - DISABLED
EIST FUNCTION...................... - DISABLED

[supershanks]

Same as you m8

CPU OPERATING SPEED................ - USER DEFINE
EXTERNAL CLOCK..................... - 272 MHz
MULTIPLIER FACTOR.................. - x 9
ESTIMATED NEW CPU CLOCK.......... - 2448 MHz
DRAM SPEED (CPU/DRAM)........... - 1:1.50 DDR2- 816 
PCI EXPRESS CLOCK.................. - 105MHz

VOLTAGE CONTROL:

CPU CORE VOLTAGE................... - 1.30V
CPU Core Voltage Offset............ -0.00 V
Target CPU Core Voltage............ - 1.30V
DDR2 VOLTAGE....................... - 2.25V ----> 2.175v should be fine
CPU VTT VOLTAGE.................... - 1.20V ----> 1.30v 
MCH 1.25V VOLTAGE.................. - 1.30V 
ICH 1.05V VOLTAGE.................. - 1.1V 
ICHIO 1.5V VOLTAGE................. - 1.50V
DDR2 REFERENCE VOLTAGE............. Default
CPU GTLREF 0+2..................... -67 % 
CPU GTLREF 1+4..................... - 67%

ADVANCED CHIPSET FEATURES:

DRAM TIMING SELECTABLE............. - SPD = Manual 
                                               <=1000   >1000
CAS LATENCY TIME (TCL)............... - 4 ...... 5
RAS TO CAS DELAY (TRCD)............. - 4 .......5
RAS PRECHARGE (TRP)......... .......... - 4........5
PRECHARGE DELAY (TRAS).............. - 12........12
REFRESH CYCLE TIME (TRFC)........... - 30........30
WRITE RECOVERY TIME (TWR)......... - 3 .........4
WRITE TO READ DELAY (TWTR)........ - 3..........4
ACT TO ACT TIME (TRRD)............... - 3..........4
READ TO PRECHARGE (TRTP)............ - 12.......12
COMMAND RATE....................... - 2T 
PCIE Root Port Function............ - V1.0A
PEG FORCE X1....................... - DISABLED
INIT DISPLAY FIRST................. - PCIEX

ADVANCED BIOS FEATURES / CPU FEATURES:
THERMAL CONTROL.................. - Dlsabled
C1E FUNCTION....................... - DISABLED
EXECUTE DISABLE BIT................ - DISABLED
VIRTUALISATION TECHNOLOGY.......... - DISABLED
EIST FUNCTION...................... - DISABLED

Have shown 2 sets of timings that are rock solid for me. Not sure about the 1:1.50 Strap not tried it. 1:1.20 seems to be most solid , so might be worthwhile upping fsb & trying something around there.

I checked the Dram voltage using Multimetter
& found it overvolts .04v on load, found tht a i could set 2.175v bios which gives 2.215v nera enogh spec vdimm of 2.2v.

With running 4x1Gb you might need the extra notch of vdimm, not sure. May be worth getting stable with 2x1gb than adding the others later, at least then you know what's going on more.

you might try 9x400 12hr stable might be a starting point for you.

Let us know how you get on

luck

[Ademcg]

ok, had a bit of time today.......so I have tweaked the mem timings a little but still core 4 fails blend after only 1 hour, closely followed by Core 0




Again, the CPU-Z volts figure is wrong, its actually 1.31v in bios

Thanks for the tips dude I will try your suggestions tonight if I can be dragged from the booze

[Clunk]

Have you left speedstep/eist enabled, or are you really priming at that speed?

If it is failing at that close to stock, it might be worth loading up the failsafe settings, and then manually set your RAM voltage and timings and run the test again. If it still fails, you need to start testing components, and I would start with the RAM.

Oh, and try the RAM in different slots.

[supershanks]

I will try your suggestions tonight if I can be dragged from the booze

Hard choice

[Optimus]

Heya fellow IX38 owners!

I'm new to the whole manual voltage/overclocking thing (and new to the enthusiast-class hardware really too)

I'm not sure where to start on my RAM voltage settings, different programs are throwing all sorts of numbers at me and what I put in BIOS doesn't seem to reflect what some of these programs are telling me.

All I know it that I can't run memtest for more than 1-5 minutes before I get errors and it BSOD/shuts down. Funny enough, the computer is perflectly stable running everything else, including playing some heavy games like bioshock and I don't normally have any other problems except when running these testing programs. Also a few voltage readouts in EVEREST are a concern to me. So, I would like an expert to look over some things please.

I'm running 4x1GB PC6400C4 GEiL DDR2-800 with "on sticker" specs of 4-4-4-12 & 2.1V with a Q6600 G0.

First small problem. I enter 4-4-4-12 in BIOS and EVEREST and CPU-Z tells me it's actually in 4-4-4-18. So, I put 4-4-4-6 in BIOS and then CPU-Z and EVEREST tell me it's in 4-4-4-12 - Is that a BIOS error, which is telling me the truth, software or hardware? - I wasn't sure so I set it manually back to 12.

Anyway onto the voltages;

CPU OPERATING SPEED................ - USER DEFINE
EXTERNAL CLOCK..................... - 340 MHz
MULTIPLIER FACTOR.................. - x 9
ESTIMATED NEW CPU CLOCK.......... - 3064 MHz
DRAM SPEED (CPU/DRAM)........... - 1:1.20 DDR2- 816 
PCI EXPRESS CLOCK.................. - 100MHz

VOLTAGE CONTROL:

CPU CORE VOLTAGE................... - 1.2625V
CPU Core Voltage Offset............ -0.00 V
Target CPU Core Voltage............ - 1.2625V
DDR2 VOLTAGE....................... - 2.10V
CPU VTT VOLTAGE.................... - 1.20V
MCH 1.25V VOLTAGE.................. - 1.25V 
ICH 1.05V VOLTAGE.................. - 1.05V 
ICHIO 1.5V VOLTAGE................. - 1.50V
DDR2 REFERENCE VOLTAGE............. +10mV
CPU GTLREF 0+2..................... -67 % 
CPU GTLREF 1+4..................... - 67%

ADVANCED CHIPSET FEATURES:

DRAM TIMING SELECTABLE............. - Manual 
CAS LATENCY TIME (TCL)............... - 4
RAS TO CAS DELAY (TRCD)............. - 4
RAS PRECHARGE (TRP)......... .......... - 4
PRECHARGE DELAY (TRAS).............. - 12
REFRESH CYCLE TIME (TRFC)........... - Auto
WRITE RECOVERY TIME (TWR)......... - Auto
WRITE TO READ DELAY (TWTR)........ - Auto
ACT TO ACT TIME (TRRD)............... - Auto
READ TO PRECHARGE (TRTP)............ - Auto
COMMAND RATE....................... - 2T 
PCIE Root Port Function............ - V1.0A
PEG FORCE X1....................... - DISABLED
INIT DISPLAY FIRST................. - PCIEX

ADVANCED BIOS FEATURES / CPU FEATURES:
C1E FUNCTION....................... - DISABLED
EXECUTE DISABLE BIT................ - DISABLED
VIRTUALISATION TECHNOLOGY.......... - DISABLED
EIST FUNCTION...................... - ENABLED

EVEREST REPORTS:

North Bridge Properties
North Bridge Intel Beachwood X38
Revision / Stepping 01 / A1
Core Voltage 1.25 V
In-Order Queue Depth 12

Memory Controller
Type Dual Channel (128-bit)
Active Mode Dual Channel (128-bit)

Memory Timings
CAS Latency (CL) 4T
RAS To CAS Delay (tRCD) 4T
RAS Precharge (tRP) 4T
RAS Active Time (tRAS) 18T
Row Refresh Cycle Time (tRFC) 42T
Command Rate (CR) 2T
RAS To RAS Delay (tRRD) 3T
Write Recovery Time (tWR) 13T
Read To Read Delay (tRTR) Same Rank: 4T, Different Rank: 6T
Read To Write Delay (tRTW) 8T
Write To Read Delay (tWTR) Same Rank: 10T, Different Rank: 5T
Write To Write Delay (tWTW) Same Rank: 4T, Different Rank: 6T
Read To Precharge Delay (tRTP) 5T
Write To Precharge Delay (tWTP) 13T
Refresh Period (tREF) 3120T
DRAM Read ODT 3T
DRAM Write ODT 6T
MCH Read ODT 8T
Performance Level 6
Read Delay Phase Adjust +1T
DIMM2 Clock Fine Delay 5T
DIMM4 Clock Fine Delay 4T

Memory Slots
DRAM Slot #1 1024 MB (DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM)
DRAM Slot #2 1024 MB (DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM)
DRAM Slot #3 1024 MB (DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM)
DRAM Slot #4 1024 MB (DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM)

PCI Express Controller
PCI-E 2.0 x16 port #2 In Use @ x1 (nVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX 512MB Video Adapter)

Temperatures
Motherboard 21 °C (70 °F)
CPU 11 °C (52 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #1 32 °C (90 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #2 33 °C (91 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #3 26 °C (79 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #4 32 °C (90 °F)
GPU 35 °C (95 °F)
GPU Diode 43 °C (109 °F)
GPU Memory 35 °C (95 °F)
GPU Ambient 36 °C (97 °F)

Cooling Fans
GPU 905 RPM (42%)

Voltage Values
CPU Core 1.50 V
Aux 2.69 V
+3.3 V 3.28 V
+5 V 5.48 V
+12 V 11.25 V
-12 V -0.93 V
+5 V Standby 4.97 V
VBAT Battery 1.02 V
GPU Vcc 3.33 V

That tREF value of 3120T is not a typeo

[Ademcg]

Originally Posted by supershanks

Hard choice

hehe....bottle far enough away as not to spill on PC and close enough to swig

Re speedstep:

ADVANCED BIOS FEATURES / CPU FEATURES:
THERMAL CONTROL.................. - Dlsabled
C1E FUNCTION....................... - DISABLED
EXECUTE DISABLE BIT................ - DISABLED
VIRTUALISATION TECHNOLOGY.......... - DISABLED
EIST FUNCTION...................... - DISABLED

Is this what you mean ? As this is what I am running.

To try RAM in different slots, you mean, take the last 2 gig out (in slots 2 &4) and just run 2 GIG ?

I have tried your settings as above, using the first set of memory timings, <1000. but with the FSB at 300 MHz

Still with 4 sticks and again, fail prime within 1 hour.



Time to remove the additional two sticks and see if it can get there with the first two.

My SuperPi is a little buggy too..which version you using btw?