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.i am trying to hold out on a retail E8400 which should be in stock by next week.
I was tempted I saw some stock today. Think I'll put my Q6600 back in & give that a whirl again before I decide. Not that keen on shelling out a shedload on a yorktown Yorkfield
9550 = 307.29 ex tax x 1.967$/£ = $604
9450 = 215.94 ex tax x 1.967$/£ = $425
I've a snreeky feeling that you won't get much more than 470fsb which is what my q6600 can run at 24/7.

Might either stick or get an 8400/8500 wolfdale to take me through to Nehlam. the ability to have a high FSB & a variety of dividers with DDR3 may yet prove the most attractive option.
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hmmm...i took my Q6600 up to 475 FSB on this board...i successfully ran wPrime for the full duration....i might have squeaked out some more because i was STILL in the exploratory phase with the board.
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I was tempted I saw some stock today. Think I'll put my Q6600 back in & give that a whirl again before I decide. Not that keen on shelling out a shedload on a yorktown Yorkfield
9550 = 307.29 ex tax x 1.967$/£ = $604
9450 = 215.94 ex tax x 1.967$/£ = $425
I've a snreeky feeling that you won't get much more than 470fsb which is what my q6600 can run at 24/7.

Might either stick or get an 8400/8500 wolfdale to take me through to Nehlam. the ability to have a high FSB & a variety of dividers with DDR3 may yet prove the most attractive option.
the 9450 looks to be an attractive buy...BUT...since i know how the Quads respond, i rather try a dual core.
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sorry was talking rock solid 24/7 prime stable etc 470 that was on the Abit Not really tested it on here.
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i rather try a dual core.
Yep that's what I was thinking Better clocks & less $.
Bugger it have ordered one Intel® Core 2 Duo E8400 boxed Q807A269 Their in that short supply atm if it's naff I can flog it on without much of a loss.

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Old 09-04-2008, 01:53
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Spent some time tightening timings on 1600Mhz clock. Using the 3.33D starp & divider. at 480FSB. Wanted to see if I could pull the benches to around the same level as my 5,5,5,12 runs earlier.

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GIGABYTE GA X48T DQ6 Clock Settings

MB Intelligent Tweaker (MIT)
Robust Graphics Booster...........: Turbo
CPU Clock Ratio...................: 7
CPU Frequency.....................: 0.5
CPU Host Clock Control............: 3,600
CPU Host Frequency(Mhz)...........: 480
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz).......: 105
C.I.A.2...........................: Disabled
Performance Enhance...............: Turbo -could probably use Extreme & leave TRD on Auto
System Memory Multiplier (SPD)....: 3.33D
Memory Frequency(Mhz).............: 1600
DRAM Timing Selectable ...........: Manual
Standard Timing Control 
CAS Latency Time (tCL)............: 6
DRAM RAS# to CAS#  (tRCD).........: 6
DRAM RAS# Precharge (tRP).........: 6
Precharge Delay (tRAS)............: 12
Advanced Timing Control
ACT to ACT Delay(tRRD)............: 4
Rank Write to READ Delay (tWTR)...: 4
Write To Precharge Delay (tWR)....: 10
Refresh to ACT Delay (tRFC).......: 50
Read To Precharge Delay (tRTP)....: 4
Static tREAD Value (tRD)..........: 7 or Auto with PL on Extreme
Static tREAD Phase Adj............:  Auto
Command Rate (CMD)................: 1T
Clock Driving and Skew Control
CPU/PCIEX Clock Driving Control...: 800nM
CPU Clock Skew Control............:  Normal
(G)MCH Clock Skew Control.........: Normal
System Voltage Control () = Base Voltages
DDR3 OverVoltage Control...(1.50v): 0.35
PCI-E OverVoltage Control.,(1.50v): 0.10
FSB OverVoltage Control....(1.10v): 0.20
(G)MCH OverVoltage Control,(1.45v): 0.300
CPU GTLREF1 Voltage*.......(67%)..: Auto
CPU GTLREF2 Voltage*.......(61%)..: Normal
Loadline Calibration..............: Auto
CPU Voltage Control...............: 1.3125
Normal CPU Vcore..................: 1.1175
Note: * Hidden Features Press [CTRL] + [F1] from main Menu to Access
Advanced Bios Features
CPU Multi-Threading...............: Disabled
Limit CPUID Max to 3..............: Disabled
No-Execute Memory Protect.........: Disabled
CPU Enhanced Halt(CIE)............: Disabled
CPU Thermal Monitor 2.............: Enabled
CPU EIST Function.................: Disabled
Virtuaalization Technology........:  Disabled
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sorry was talking rock solid 24/7 prime stable etc 470 that was on the Abit Not really tested it on here.

i presume 470 fsb using a 7X multi
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Spent some time tightening timings on 1600Mhz clock. Using the 3.33D starp & divider. at 480FSB. Wanted to see if I could pull the benches to around the same level as my 5,5,5,12 runs earlier.

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GIGABYTE GA X48T DQ6 Clock Settings

MB Intelligent Tweaker (MIT)
Robust Graphics Booster...........: Turbo
CPU Clock Ratio...................: 7
CPU Frequency.....................: 0.5
CPU Host Clock Control............: 3,600
CPU Host Frequency(Mhz)...........: 480
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz).......: 105
C.I.A.2...........................: Disabled
Performance Enhance...............: Turbo -could probably use Extreme & leave TRD on Auto
System Memory Multiplier (SPD)....: 3.33D
Memory Frequency(Mhz).............: 1600
DRAM Timing Selectable ...........: Manual
Standard Timing Control 
CAS Latency Time (tCL)............: 6
DRAM RAS# to CAS#  (tRCD).........: 6
DRAM RAS# Precharge (tRP).........: 6
Precharge Delay (tRAS)............: 12
Advanced Timing Control
ACT to ACT Delay(tRRD)............: 4
Rank Write to READ Delay (tWTR)...: 4
Write To Precharge Delay (tWR)....: 10
Refresh to ACT Delay (tRFC).......: 50
Read To Precharge Delay (tRTP)....: 4
Static tREAD Value (tRD)..........: 7 or Auto with PL on Extreme
Static tREAD Phase Adj............:  Auto
Command Rate (CMD)................: 1T
Clock Driving and Skew Control
CPU/PCIEX Clock Driving Control...: 800nM
CPU Clock Skew Control............:  Normal
(G)MCH Clock Skew Control.........: Normal
System Voltage Control () = Base Voltages
DDR3 OverVoltage Control...(1.50v): 0.35
PCI-E OverVoltage Control.,(1.50v): 0.10
FSB OverVoltage Control....(1.10v): 0.20
(G)MCH OverVoltage Control,(1.45v): 0.300
CPU GTLREF1 Voltage*.......(67%)..: Auto
CPU GTLREF2 Voltage*.......(61%)..: Normal
Loadline Calibration..............: Auto
CPU Voltage Control...............: 1.3125
Normal CPU Vcore..................: 1.1175
Note: * Hidden Features Press [CTRL] + [F1] from main Menu to Access
Advanced Bios Features
CPU Multi-Threading...............: Disabled
Limit CPUID Max to 3..............: Disabled
No-Execute Memory Protect.........: Disabled
CPU Enhanced Halt(CIE)............: Disabled
CPU Thermal Monitor 2.............: Enabled
CPU EIST Function.................: Disabled
Virtuaalization Technology........:  Disabled
it looks as if the copy speed dropped below 10K...
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i presume 470 fsb using a 7X multi
Sorry talking about my Q6600 8x470 was my 24/7 clock on the Abit X38 QuadGT My point was that I cant see the Yorkies doing much more than what ?? 485 , sure a bit faster code more cache etc., but alnost 2x the $ ?? Doesn't seem too clever.

Though getting some decent benches at tighter timings & lower Mhz, it feels restrictive running lower FSB using dividers unchanged from DDR2. Perhaps p45 or nehalem will sort this out AS you said 2 core may be the CPU of choice with ddr3 at this stage.


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it looks as if the copy speed dropped below 10K..
Yep it does, hadn't noticed that , not too sure why at this stage,
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Sorry talking about my Q6600 8x470 was my 24/7 clock
it was the 'yankee' in me to spoof you on the 7X multi...hehehe...i gathered that it was the 8X multi.

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Yep it does, hadn't noticed that , not too sure why at this stage,
what is amazing with you getting over 10K is the fact that you were using PL=9...NOW...it might have been a detection problem with memset like CpuZ having a problem of detecting actual memory speed.
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what is amazing with you getting over 10K is the fact that you were using PL=9...NOW...it might have been a detection problem with memset like CpuZ having a problem of detecting actual memory speed.
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true. what's also odd is the auto performance settings. I ususlly setr off with trd on auto with performance unchanged at turbo. That's where the 9 came from. However on the 1200+ 5,5,5,12 & 1600 6,6,6,12 I found I was able to drop TRD a point from the Turbo / Auto setting. This means that I could leave TRD on Auto & probably run with Performance Enhance on Extreme.

I'll revisit the earlier 9 setting. It's also linked with the FSB I was at 520 for that on 480 on the last. TRD Increases with FSB 400=7 333= 6 for example.

Memset is great for testing the TRD. It's a bit like testing for mines with your foot you note the value that's there & see if you can drop it a notch. It either lets you or the rig freazzes
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