Gigabyte GA X38 DQ6 Blog

[dMITIj]

Mjello Folks.

First:
Merry Chrisemas

Then:
How do i turne this stuff:
http://peecee.dk/?id=86763
off so i don't have to look/wait at that screen every time i restart my computer?

[supershanks]

You can't it's no different to any mobo on any chipset.
If you really want to speed things up on the post screen, ditch your raid & just work with a single HD, IDE mode will probably post quicker as well.

[chotto69]

Hi supershanks and first of all Merry Xmas!
I want to ask you a couple of silly questions because, as i said in a previous post, all those "extra" values for memory timings have little or no meaning to me and as i understand, they are VERY important to have this mobo run smoothly at almost any given FSB.
First question is: for all the timings is valid the rule "the lower the number the better performance"? Probably it is an obvious question but i am not sure whether this rule applies only to the "classic" timings such as 5-5-5-12, etc. or all of them.
My second question is actually a request of advice on this configuration. This is 3.3Ghz rock stable (i'ma actually trying to lower the core voltage to get better temp) but if i try to raise a bit the FSB, say at 380, i boot without problems but i immediately get memory errors when i launch a stability test with Everest. Any advice on how to change those (bloody) memory timings? I used the template and read the timings from MemSet but i couldn't recognize all the names as they are probably called in a different way. In my present configuration i let the mobo decide all the timings giving the Extreme performance.
Thanks for your help

MB Intelligent Tweaker (MIT)
Robust Graphics Booster: Turbo
CPU Clock Ratio: 9
CPU Host Clock Control: Enabled
CPU Host Frequency(Mhz) : 367
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) : 105
C.I.A.2:
Performance Enhance : Extreme
System Memory Multiplier (SPD): 2.00
Memory Frequency(Mhz): 734
DRAM Timing Selectable : Manual
Standard Timing ControlCAS Latency Time: : 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# :5
DRAM RAS# Precharge :5
Precharge Delay(tRAS) :12
Advanced Timing Control
ACT to ACT Delay(tRRD) :3
Rank Write to READ Delay :11
Write To Precharge Delay :14
Refresh to ACT Delay :42 (is this tRFC?)
Read To Precharge Delay :3 (is this tRTP?)
tRD :8
tRD Phase Adjustment : not sure what is this
Command to #CS Timing: :

System Voltage Control
DDR2 OverVoltage Control :+0.10
PCI-E OverVoltage Control :+0.20
FSB OverVoltage Control :+0.20

CPU Voltage Control :1.500

[supershanks]

All the best to you too m8

the lower the number the better performance

Yep - lowerr = Tighter higher(faster, less stable) = slacker(slower more stable)

This is the translation between the bios timings and the Memset equivalent:-

Memset:-


Bios:-
Memset Equivalent

Performance Enhance :
System Memory Multiplier (SPD)
Memory Frequency(Mhz):
DRAM Timing Selectable :
Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time: : = 1 Cas# Latency [tCL]
DRAM RAS# to CAS# : =  2 Ras# to Cas Read Delay & 3 Ras# to Cas Write Delay
DRAM RAS# Precharge : = 4 Ras# Precharge [tRP]
Precharge Delay(tRAS) : = 5 Precharge Delay [tRAS]
Advanced Timing Control
ACT to ACT Delay(tRRD) : 11 Act to act Delayed [tRRD]
Rank Write to READ Delay : 10 Write to Read Delayed [tWTR] 
Write To Precharge Delay : 9 Write to Precharge Delayed 
Refresh to ACT Delay :  7 Refresh Cycle Time [tRFC]
Read To Precharge Delay :13  Read to Precharge [tRTP]
tRD : 8 Performance Level 
tRD Phase Adjustment :  Unknown
Command to #CS Timing: : 16 Command Rate [CR]

Other factors impact the TRD (performance) setting. If left on Auto then different values of Performance Enhance {Standard] ,[Extreme] . [Turbo]
[Standard] = more stable but poorer performance [Turbo] = Opposite. So TRD = higher on Standard, lower Turbo

luck

[chotto69]

Thank you for your clear explanation (as usual)! Considering my previous case (attempting a FSB 380 oc), which timings would you try to tweak in order to make the memory stable? Only tRD or other settings too?
Thanks

[Padantic]

Hi again,
Supershanks, can you tell everyone(well me at least) what your method is for flashing the bios. I assume you use Qflash but what steps to you take, ie do you clear dmi data,flash,load defualts, usejumper to reset..whatever, please advise.
Thanks

[supershanks]

if your running your 6400 then your best probably sticking at 2 as amemory multiplier. That gives you 2 options :-
8x400 = 3200 with memory on 800 (6400)
9x380 = 3420 with memory of 760 (6080)

You might experiment with TRD on Auto & different Performance Enhance : Values.

From these use Memset
to find out the TRD values. remembering

tRD : 8 Performance Level

If you are unstable change the TRD from that shown on auto, to 1 higher.

Usually the remaining sub values are ok i'd leave trd Phase adjustment on auto. TrrD , Rank Write to read & read to prechatge Delay can usually be set to the value of Cas Latency -1.

Hope that helps.

[supershanks]

Yes I run q-Flash to flash bios.
I put the bios on a flash drive (Note Flash drive or HD partition Must be formatted in FAT 32 or 16, NTFS Cannot be read.

Enter bios & use [F8] to start bios proceure.

After flashing load bios defaults & let DMI rebuild.

More details are on p70 manual.
HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool - v2.1.8 to format flash drive.

luck

[chotto69]

Originally Posted by supershanks

if your running your 6400 then your best probably sticking at 2 as amemory multiplier. That gives you 2 options :-
8x400 = 3200 with memory on 800 (6400)
9x380 = 3420 with memory of 760 (6080)

You might experiment with TRD on Auto & different Performance Enhance : Values.

From these use Memset
to find out the TRD values. remembering If you are unstable change the TRD from that shown on auto, to 1 higher.

Usually the remaining sub values are ok i'd leave trd Phase adjustment on auto. TrrD , Rank Write to read & read to prechatge Delay can usually be set to the value of Cas Latency -1.

Hope that helps.

Hi, unfortunately i had no luck with FSB 380x9. I tried with the performance level in standard (trd was as low as 13!) but the system was barely bootable. Manually adjusting the other settings the way you suggested gave me either an un-bootable machine or a very instable one that would bsod me short after log on.
It seems that with my memory (and this bloody bios ), FSB 367 is the top i can reach...

[supershanks]

what about the

8x400 = 3200 with 2 as a memory multiplier