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Old 21-03-2008, 22:16
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Default Lifting Heatpipes

Decided the other day to see what was beneath the pipes


bot quite as pristine as the Gigabyte x38 DQ6(see bottomn Pic) which is my current all time winner
Screws & back brackets aren't that robust. Threads will strip idf screws are overtightened , about on a par with Asus P5E3 Deluxe.

PWM Area

PWM Heatsink


Northbridge Area

Northbridge Heatsink


Southbridge Area

Southbridge Heatsink

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Various Clocks & Banches
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Old 22-03-2008, 16:21
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4,230=9x470


4,023=9x447
CPU-Z Validation


Over 500 -510 on Q6600
CPU-Z Validation
Got pretty exited over this until I saw the number of cores

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Old 22-03-2008, 16:39
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Unlucky with the quad mate . Nice results from the Wolfie.... have you still got it, or is that the one you sold?
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470x8 - Crunch Clock
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Old 22-03-2008, 16:51
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Default 470x8 - Crunch Clock

I chose this Clock for comparison purposes, I ran this 24/7, for several months.,on the X38 3760 8x470 1:1.20 24Hrs Prime Stable

With respect to the Mars , this seems to be the clock that sorts the men out from the boys. I spent about 2~3 days on and off attempting to get stable on the Mars. About the best I managed was 1~2 hours prime stable, certainly nothing approaching the stability of the Abit.




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Old 22-03-2008, 17:26
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what is causing you to drop 2 cores on that high overclock?...i heard somone else report that problem for another board; can't remeber which one.
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Old 22-03-2008, 19:01
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Features , Layout & Package
The Copper heatpipes are good , though the mounting screws are only a light alloy, it can be easy to strip the thread of if overtightened. See Item7 in Indexl
North Bridge Apart from MSI Roller-coaster Heatpipes I can't think of any more striking feature than the Mars NB Cooler. With the addition of the Fan and the Secret Panels that enable larger CPU Air coolers, it is also functionally effective, rather than just being a visual gimmick.
Board Layout Is excellent , there's even a little more space between the ram slots and PCI-E slot, the common failing on most boards. With on board power, reset & clear bios buttons, it has all the features of top end boards. The only slight complaint is the front case connections, many cases have a 3 pin Power LED connection, many boards cater for both 2 and 3 pin connections. The Mars only has a 2 pin connection, which might have worked , had the case 3 poin connection not used both end pins

9.5/10 the screws lost that perfect score.

Overclocking & Bios
Bios Features - Bios is comprehensive and decently laid out. Gladiator bios, the ocing section, is the bit that interests most of us is good. Only criticism is that compared to most performance boards the voltage intervals are very coarse see Gladiator Bios- (2of3) & Gladiator Bios 3of3 for Details.
Overclocking
As with The P5k Deluxe before it I found little problem in overclocking the Mars. What I have found difficult, is getting any stability on >3.6k clocks. This in my experience seems to be the crucial difference between P35 and X38 Chipsets. see 470x8 - Crunch Clock

8.5/10 (Including what in my mind is a chipset v chipset P35 v X38 issue re stability)

For a board from a supplier new to the Enthusiast sector of the market the Mars represents a great start. There are however 2 sections where Foxconn need to invest a little more attention, both of these relate to customer service and support.

Customer Service
1) Web site - Support Forum.
Foxconn rightly have set up a user support forum, in a great move they've got Shamino on board as guide and mentor However access is pretty hit & miss , about 50% of the time I just get a
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Bad Request (Invalid Hostname)
error when connecting.
2) Support - Unfortunately I had some issues with the board see Option ROM Issue & Jmicron Controller as the board had direct support from Foxconn I contacted the forum as well as Foxconn Support. Again being largely an OEM supplier this may be a new area for Foxconn, but for me it wasn't a good experience. I had about 4 days of question & answer emails, which did nothing to address or remedy the problem, in the end i was given an email address to Foxcoonn UK , which was wrong, went through 2nd time ok, but am still awaiting a reply. The only reason I got a replacement board was thanks to Shamino's efforts. It's to be hoped that Foxconn can raise their game in these two arae.

5/10

Value: At around £130 the Mars is about +£10 more than the Abit IP35 Pro & around -£15 less than the Abit IX38 QuadGT. Given it's build quality and package this is great value.

10/10

Summary

Features: 9.5/10
Overclocking & Bios: 8.5/10
Value: 10/10
Overall: 9.3/10

with Customer Service taken into account (5/10) the overall score would drop to 8.25, so hopefully Foxconn are here for the long haul and will improve in this area.
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Old 22-03-2008, 19:09
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Unlucky with the quad mate . Nice results from the Wolfie.... have you still got it, or is that the one you sold?
Aye thanks I was pretty gutted

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what is causing you to drop 2 cores on that high overclock?...i heard somone else report that problem for another board; can't remember which one.
I must have read the same post, 'cos I remembered reading about it myself. Sasly couldn't find it or the reason why i dropped the 2 cores.
It wasn't my normal Q6600, which can't hit >495 (best on IX38 quadGT) . Had it hit 510 with all 4 I might have swapped .

I spent a fair time tweaking NB voltage etc., to see if i could get x4 , but didn't make it.
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What do you call these paste-like at the bottom?

Thanks.

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Hi grungero,
Welcome to the forum
Unlike the Thermal sheets used by gigabyte Thermal sheets used by gigabyte It's a quiet thick thermal gunge. If you remove the heatpipes , it's best to remove it & re paste using a thermal paste or grease. You may need to use some Acetone (Nail varnish rtemover) which shifts it easier than the more normal Isopropyl Alcohol

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Hi grungero,
Welcome to the forum
Unlike the Thermal sheets used by gigabyte Thermal sheets used by gigabyte It's a quiet thick thermal gunge. If you remove the heatpipes , it's best to remove it & re paste using a thermal paste or grease. You may need to use some Acetone (Nail varnish rtemover) which shifts it easier than the more normal Isopropyl Alcohol

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Ok, thanks shanks.

I got a zalman thermal paste for the cpu, maybe it's ok to replace the old paste.

It's worth to try.

Anyway, shanks what tool did you use to remove the pipe? Thank you in advance. Again.

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