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I have overclocked my system to 3.8Ghz. My Bios Template is below:

Ai Overclock Tuner - Manual
CPU Ratio Setting - 19.0
Intel (R) SpeedStep (TM) Tech - Disabled
Intel (R) Turbo Mode Tech - Disabled
BCLK Frequency - 200
PCIE Fequency - 100
DRAM Frequency - DDR3 - 1603MHz

DRAM CAS# Latency - 8 DRAM Clock
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay - 8 DRAM Clock
DRAM RAS# PRE Time - 8 DRAM Clock
DRAM RAS# ACT Time - 24 DRAM Clock

CPU Voltage 1.20000v
CPU PLL Voltage - Auto
QPI/DRAM Voltage - 1.35000V
IOH Voltage - Auto
IOH PCIE Voltage - Auto
ICH Voltage - Auto
ICH Voltage - Auto

DRAM Bus Voltage - 1.66v
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA - Auto
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHA - Auto
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB - Auto
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHB - Auto
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHC - Auto
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHC - Auto

Load-Line Calibration - Enabled
CPU Differential Amplitude - Auto
CPU Clock Skew - Auto
CPU Spread Spectrum - Disabled
IOH Clock Skew - Auto
PCIE Spread Spectrum - Disabled

I have two questions to ask:
1) When I run Prime95 (smallFFT) I have it run for about 20-30 without errors but then I notice on both CPU-Z and Real Temp that my CPU speed drops down to 2.4 Ghz from 3.8Ghz. I thought something was wrong so I stopped prime95 then after about 2 minutes I see the speed comes back up to 3.8Ghz. Prime95 does not come up with any errors.
Also I tried LinX (on All setting) and I set it to run for 25 minutes. Near the end of the stress test I noticed the speed lower again to 2.4Ghz so I left it to finish (had about 4 min left) and it finished without errors. After it finished I looked back at my CPU speed it got back up to 3.8Ghz. (oh, temperatures are at 70-72 MAX)What's going on here?

2) Do I need to tweak any of my settings shown above to get better temps (i am on water but I've seen better temps that others had on air). I don't know if I should mess with the IOH and IC voltages, would that help to lower temps. Maybe decrease the Vcore would help. Would anyone suggest what to use, maybe they have something better they can provide.

I tried OCCT and after about 15 minutes the CPU speed went down from 3.8Ghz to 2.4Ghz. I checked CPU-z and it showed the multiplier was 12.0. I also noted the temperatures and they were about 62-63C. But the weird this is that OCCT didn't come up with any errors.

Please any help would be appreciated.

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What cooling do you have? I know you said water, but I'm wondering what kind of set up? Usually when it throttles like that, it's because Turbo isn't liking the temps. Your settings show that Turbo is off, so that's that theory out of the window.

I'd give the CMOS a clear and see if that has any effect, sometimes you can get weird results like this if there's any BIOS corruption from a bad overclock. Also, if you aren't already on it, flash to the latest BIOS for your board.
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Thanks for the quick reply. The cooling I have is thermaltake. It's a thermaltake case that came with built in cooling. Also my temps didn't go over 75C under load. I'll try to flash the bios to the latest version and see what happens.

EDIT: I flashed my bios to 1004 and all is good so far. I changed my bios setting to what I had previously. It boot fine and I am running Prime95 as I am writing this. So far the CPU speed is steady at 3.8 Ghz. Temperatures are kind of weird. I am monitoring them using REAL TEMP and they're 69 69 66 67 but on Asus Probe II the CPU temp is 73. Kind of high for a water cooled setup, I'll lower my vcore later and see what happens. I did do some research and found another program called CPU-Tweaker v1.3. I am not a fan of overclocking windows but this is program is just to see what my settings show. What I have noticed is that on the CPU setting button there are 3 options shown: EIST, TURBO, and C1E. Beside EIST shows ENABLED, TURBO ENABLED, and C1E DISABLED. As you can see I disabled TURBO, C1E, and SPEED STEP back in bios. This is getting confusing for me. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

BTW, temps are (REAL TEMP) 71C, 71C, 68C, 69C at full load and 75C (Asus Probe II).

EDIT2: The CPU speed is decreasing to 2.4Ghz after about 10 minutes. I have lowered my Vcore to 1.1875V, temps got a little better, 69-70C. What in blazes is going on?????? No errors in Prime95, OCCT, LinX... Anyone?

Thanks for the help.

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Hello,

I am VERY new to overclocking, and trying to follow the guide and look through the replies as much as possible but, I have come to a wall and am lost as to how I can achieve any OC.

I am trying to get to 3.6Ghz, 3.3 wouldnt upset me if that is all i can achieve. I followed all of the steps on the first page with no success.... Though having Asus Gene II my layout was a tad different, but all of the same information was still in there.

Upon first boot, blue screen... So, I dug around a bit more and tried to find something that I could do to change what I had... went down with RAM to 1028... Rebooted... Blue screen.

Next I read around about trying to up the voltage... reset RAM back to 1282, upped CPU voltage from 1.1 to 1.2. Rebooted.... BAM! Was up and running, CPU-Z showed the same that the guide shows, temperatures were around 40C...

Before I started on using the Prime95, I went and used SiSoftware Sandra, it checked out at 3.3GHz, went to use it to test my memory bandwidth and noticed something odd. I was only showing 2 DIMM's, not 3...

Rebooted out of curiousity, and blue screen again just as Windows Login appears. Thought well, maybe its my RAM.

Rebooted and ran Memtest86+, but it was showing only Dual Channel installed, though it was picking up all 3 sticks.

Shut down PC, reseated all RAM, rebooted to Memtest and showed 3 sticks and 6GB RAM. Let Memtest finish one pass and all checked out with 0 errors. So I rebooted again, blue screen.

Figured it had to be something with me having RAM attempting a 1280, even though its rated for 2000.... (starting to get skeptical at this point but...)

So I dropped it to Auto, thinking maybe my BIOS could figure it out on its own... rebooted.... Blue screen...

Decided to try another test on RAM, reset all BIOS to original settings, then set RAM speed to 1866, rebooted... Everything came up fine... Rebooted, Memtested again... everything check out, rebooted, still running smoothly. So, this is where I search this thread, finding people with several different problems but still come up empty handed on a solution so I figured I would attempt to seek help from you guys here on the forum.

Please help me out if possible.

Thanks,

Richard

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i7-920 Bloomfield
3 X 2GB GSkill Trident PC16000
Cooler - Well, gonna try to work on that one....Stock at moment

P.S. - If need be I can attempt a photo of my BIOS and post. Just let me know..

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Welcome to the forums

I had a problem with one module going missing on the P6T Deluxe, but that was generally when I was either at the limit of the memory controller, or if there wasn't enough QPI_DRAM voltage.

Try the settings that you managed to run at and set the QPI_DRAM voltage to around 1.3v and if it's still not enough, keep going up in small steps until it is stable - This is also assuming that you definitely haven't got a bad module.

If you could post a BIOS template for your board, that would help too, but not a photo as it means me copying all the settings down and that's your job
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I appreciate the welcome. Glad to be somewhere that has someone who is willing to help people like me who are totally clueless. Anywho, I hope this will fullfill your request for a template. Its probably overkill but.... I havent made any further changes yet. I wanted to get this out first. Going to attempt changes now...

That which is marked with + is not able to be editted in that location.

Asus Rampage II GENE -- *Extreme Tweaker*

+Target CPU Frequency: XXXXMHz
+Target DRAM Frequency: XXXXMHz

Tuning Mode
CPU Level Up
Memory Level Up
Ai Overclock Tuner
+Ratio statusMin:12, Max:21)
+Ratio Actual Value:20
CPU Ratio Setting
CPU Turbo Power Limit
>CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Setting
C1E Support
Hardware Prefetcher
Adjacent Cache Line Prefetch
Intel Virtualization Tech
CPU TM Function
Execute Disable Bit
Intel HT Technology
*Active Processor Cores
A20M
*Intel SpeedStep Tech
*Intel Turbo Mode Tech
Intel C-STATE Tech

BCLK Frequency
PCIE Fequency
DRAM Frequency
UCLK Frequency
QPI Link Data Rate


>DRAM Timing Control
1st Information: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
DRAM CAS# Latency (tCL)
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD)
DRAM RAS# PRE Time (tRP)
DRAM RAS# ACT Time (tRAS)
DRAM RAS# to RAS# Delay (tRRD)
DRAM REF Cycle Time (tRFC)
DRAM WRITE Recovery Time (tWR)
DRAM READ to PRE Time (tRTP)
DRAM FOUR ACT WIN Time (tFAW)
DRAM Back-To-Back CAS# Delay
2nd Information: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
DRAM Timing Mode
DRAM Round Trip Latency on CHA
DRAM Round Trip Latency on CHB
DRAM Round Trip Latency on CHC
3rd Information: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
DRAM WRITE to READ Delay(DD) (tddWrTRd)
DRAM WRITE to READ Delay(DR) (tdrWrTRd)
DRAM WRITE to READ Delay(SR) (tsrWrTRd)
DRAM READ to WRITE Delay(DD) (tddRdTWr)
DRAM READ to WRITE Delay(DR) (tdrRdTWr)
DRAM READ to WRITE Delay(SR) (tsrRdTWr)
DRAM READ to READ Delay(DD) (tddRdTRd)
DRAM READ to READ Delay(DR) (tdrRdTRd)
DRAM READ to READ Delay(SR) (tsrRdTRd)
DRAM WRITE to WRITE Delay(DD) (tddWrTWr)
DRAM WRITE to WRITE Delay(DR) (tdrWrTWr)
DRAM WRITE to WRITE Delay(SR) (tsrWrTWr)


EPU II Phase Control
CPU Load-Line Calibration
CPU Differential Amplitude
NB OCP
DRAM OCP
*** Please key in number or select voltage! ***
Extreme OV
+Current Voltage:
+Cpu Temperature:
CPU Voltage
CPU PLL Voltage
QPI/DRAM Core Voltage
+Current Voltage:
+NB/SB Temperature:
IOH Voltage
IOH PCIE Voltage
ICH Voltage
ICH PCIE Voltage
+Current Voltage:
DRAM Bus Voltage
>DRAM REF Voltages
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHC
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHC


Read POST Code from LCD Poster/iROG Control Plus
Debug Mode
Keyboard TweakIt Control


******** Spread Spectrum and Clock Skew ********
CPU Spread Spectrum
PCIE Spread Spectrum
CPU Clock Skew
IOH Clock Skew

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Ok, new development.

Had RAM running at bare minimum, reattempted OC. Rebooted, worked.. BRILLIANT I thought, so now I suppose I have a RAM issue is all.

Tried everything with adjusting RAM, but EEEEVVVEERRRYTHING BSODed me there. So then I went and tried another area. I had it to where I adjust CPU manually, then had the Memory Level Up set my memory to 1800Mhz. When I did this it dropped the CPU Ratio Setting automatically to 18, which caused my 160 BCLK to achieve under the 3.3Ghz though, so i adjusted to 180 to bring CPU up to 3.24Ghz.

Everything seems to be running fine, except for the fact of my multiplier being low. I think this also automatically raised my QPI to 1.4 when I set Memory Level up to 1800Mhz.

Any thoughts on what could be causing the problems when the Ratio is set higher? So far that is the ONLY thing that I can seem to determine has changed...


P.S. - Editing this for space... Tried manually changing Ratio. First attempt 20... No boot... Second attempt 19... everything up and going at 3.4GHz, 19 Multi. I know that currently I am really lost, just hoping you might know a bit more and might know why its doing this...


Oh, and had to add this... been looking at it every time I post something...

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Could you post the template with the settings that are failing please? Exactly as you have done above but with all the values in place
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Here is what I was trying to set at:


*Extreme Tweaker*

Target CPU Frequency: XXXXMHz
Target DRAM Frequency: XXXXMHz

Tuning Mode - Extreme OC (Either that or Gaming can be selected)
CPU Level Up – Auto
Memory Level Up – Auto
Ai Overclock Tuner – Manual
+Ratio statusMin:12, Max:21)
+Ratio Actual Value:20
CPU Ratio Setting – Auto
CPU Turbo Power Limit – Enabled
>CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Setting – Auto
C1E Support – Enabled
Hardware Prefetcher – Enabled
Adjacent Cache Line Prefetch – Enabled
Intel Virtualization Tech – Enabled
CPU TM Function – Enabled
Execute Disable Bit – Enabled
Intel HT Technology – Enabled
*Active Processor Cores – All
A20M – Disabled
*Intel SpeedStep Tech – Enabled
*Intel Turbo Mode Tech – Enabled
Intel C-STATE Tech – Disabled


BCLK Frequency – 160
PCIE Frequency – 100
DRAM Frequency – DDR3-1282MHz
UCLK Frequency – Auto
QPI Link Data Rate – Auto


>DRAM Timing Control
1st Information: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
DRAM CAS# Latency (tCL) – 9 DRAM Clock
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD) – 9 DRAM Clock
DRAM RAS# PRE Time (tRP) – 9 DRAM Clock
DRAM RAS# ACT Time (tRAS) – 24 DRAM Clock
DRAM RAS# to RAS# Delay (tRRD) – Auto
DRAM REF Cycle Time (tRFC) – Auto
DRAM WRITE Recovery Time (tWR) – Auto
DRAM READ to PRE Time (tRTP) – Auto
DRAM FOUR ACT WIN Time (tFAW) – Auto
DRAM Back-To-Back CAS# Delay – Auto
2nd Information: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
DRAM Timing Mode – Auto
DRAM Round Trip Latency on CHA – Auto
DRAM Round Trip Latency on CHB – Auto
DRAM Round Trip Latency on CHC – Auto
3rd Information: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
DRAM WRITE to READ Delay(DD) (tddWrTRd) – Auto
DRAM WRITE to READ Delay(DR) (tdrWrTRd) – Auto
DRAM WRITE to READ Delay(SR) (tsrWrTRd) – Auto
DRAM READ to WRITE Delay(DD) (tddRdTWr) – Auto
DRAM READ to WRITE Delay(DR) (tdrRdTWr) – Auto
DRAM READ to WRITE Delay(SR) (tsrRdTWr) – Auto
DRAM READ to READ Delay(DD) (tddRdTRd) – Auto
DRAM READ to READ Delay(DR) (tdrRdTRd) – Auto
DRAM READ to READ Delay(SR) (tsrRdTRd) – Auto
DRAM WRITE to WRITE Delay(DD) (tddWrTWr) – Auto
DRAM WRITE to WRITE Delay(DR) (tdrWrTWr) – Auto
DRAM WRITE to WRITE Delay(SR) (tsrWrTWr) – Auto


EPU II Phase Control – Full Phase
CPU Load-Line Calibration - Enabled
CPU Differential Amplitude – Auto
NB OCP – Enabled
DRAM OCP – Enabled
*** Please key in number or select voltage! ***
Extreme OV - Disabled
+Current Voltage:
+Cpu Temperature:
CPU Voltage – 1.2000
CPU PLL Voltage – Auto
QPI/DRAM Core Voltage – 1.3000
+Current Voltage:
+NB/SB Temperature:
IOH Voltage – Auto
IOH PCIE Voltage – Auto
ICH Voltage – Auto
ICH PCIE Voltage – Auto
+Current Voltage:
DRAM Bus Voltage - 1.60381
>DRAM REF Voltages
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA – Auto
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA – Auto
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB – Auto
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB – Auto
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHC – Auto
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHC – Auto


Read POST Code from LCD Poster/iROG Control Plus
Debug Mode – String
Keyboard TweakIt Control - Disabled


******** Spread Spectrum and Clock Skew ********
CPU Spread Spectrum – Auto
PCIE Spread Spectrum – Auto
CPU Clock Skew – Auto
IOH Clock Skew – Auto
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Was it bad memory then?
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