Watercooling questions

MustRotate · #1 20-08-2008, 12:30

Hello all,
i have a couple of questions regarding the watercooling vs air cooling dispute.

My main issue is that if i can reach under 45degrees load temps with watercooling on my Q9450@3.8GHz that is currently reaching 64degrees(hottest core) in Prime95 small fft load.

If yes, what do i need to do that? Triple rad with Ek Supreme wb(

did some research before starting this thread)?

Is it a good idea to cool also the motherboard in the same loop or just put some high-end cooling like the Thermalright mosfet heatsinks?

Because i now have a Lian Li PC-A16 case i suppose that for watercooling i need to change my case. Is the P80,A7110(with optional rad mount top) ok?

Do i need for my future 4870x2 also a separate loop? What kind of pumps are ok?

What do you do with the old waterblocks when you change platform? For example if you put mosfet or nb waterblocks on your mobo what do you do with them when you change platform because most of the time they do not fit onto the new hardware.

Is watercooling quieter than air cooling, because a triple rad would need also 3x120mm fans but i do not know how much rpm should a rad fan have.

Is thicker tubing better than thinner? Does color make a difference? Also does acetal or plexy make a difference?

These are a list of questions that popped in my mind in an attempt to stop me from switching to watercooling

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I will probably do my shopping at HighFlow Computer Cooling Shop - Meer dan 500 producten op voorraad! and Aquatuning - Der Wasserkühlung Vollsortimenter so if you could point me to parts from there it would be awesome.

Thanks in advance for your feedback, i hope i didnt ask too much info at once.

Clunk · #2 20-08-2008, 15:18

Why does it have to be 45 degrees?

Don't forget that there are many other contributing factors to CPU temps. Room temp is probably the biggest factor, so if your room is hot, your temps will be much higher - just common sense really in that respect.

You also don't HAVE to do two loops to get good temps. You can still use two radiators, but instead of two pumps/reses etc, just use a single good quality pump, something like a DDC 18w with a good top (Petras maybe) and that will give you a good amount of power.

If you are cooling a 4870x2, I believe they pump out 289w of heat, so you will need a triple radiator if you are adding that to the loop, and in that instance, I would personally have that on it's own loop because that will affect your temps under load.

I use universal NB blocks....EK and Danger Den do good ones (see the DK X48-T2RSB+ thread for pics) and I've only had three socket 775 boards that these wouldn't fit on and they all used the Intel hook and eye fastening.

Most CPU blocks are universal and fit on several different platforms, but I'm not sure how things will pan out with the new socket that's on the way from Intel.

Tubing is a personal preference really. The absolute ideal size is alledgedly 7/16ID on 1/2" barbs.

I use the clearflex type stuff as I find that it doesn't kink as easily as the thinner stuff.

Why would colour make a difference? I don't understand what you mean there

Acetal vs plexy - Again, it's down to looks, plexy will start to crack over time, acetal is a bit tougher but less visible.

You need to set a budget first

MustRotate · #3 20-08-2008, 16:01

About the tubing: i read somewhere that sunlight may enhance algae growth or something. They were debating of using uv additive or not.
What about the Mosfets? Are they good with the TR Mosfet heatsinks? I could put also a TR HR05SLI/IFX on the Asus,just like i did on the DFI. Dunno how would that compare to the watercooling though.
I was asking just as a general starting block(to see how many euros the watercooling would be and what results would it have), but how much would it cost to just cool the cpu for starters? So the best LGA775 watercooling there is.

Clunk · #4 20-08-2008, 16:41

In theory, UV light can encourage algae growth, but most UV additives nowadays contain anti corrosive and anti algae agents, so there's nothing to worry about there.

I personally don't think you need to watercool mosfets in a lot of circumstances, but there are some boards that run really hot, like the Abit IP35/QuadGT and they can benefit from watercooling, but be warned, all the heat from the mosfets will affect other temps.

Probably the best components would be something like;

PA120.3 or 120.3
D-tek Fuzion
DDC 18w pump
DDC Pump Top of your choice
Reservoir of your choice
Tubing of your choice
Barbs of your choice
Fans of your choice.

MustRotate · #5 20-08-2008, 22:23

Thank you Clunk, i'll look into it.

MustRotate · #6 21-11-2008, 08:57

Reviving this thread. I have asked the opinion in a german forum and they said that the best cooling for a Quad and a 4870x2 would be a 9.120 Giant radiator(Watercool Mo-Ra 2 Pro or an evo1080 to be precise).
I want something to be as quiet as possible. And to provide enough cooling capacity potential for a Quad and 2 4870x2.
They said a 9.120 monster radiator with YateLoons or Noctua fans(9 of them) and a Aquacomputer Aquastream XT USB 12V Pump- Ultra Version. Could a chiller replace the radiator? If so do you think a chiller might have room in a case(V2000,V2100,V2110 or similar)? Is the chiller silent? I was thinking of the Hailea Ultra 1500(790W cooling capacity) or the Ultra 2000(1650W cooling capacity).

affiliate13 · #7 21-11-2008, 10:57

Mo-Ra 2 Pro are huge so i suppose the potential heat dissapation is big too, but as i understand it they are quite restrictive so if that is a powerful pump that should help.
I would guess the sheer size of the rad would deal with any heat dump a more powerful pump would create, donno though, its all new to me.

What block are you thinking for the X2?