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Old 10-03-2008, 22:38
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Can't m8, they've gone back. I'm back on the Foxconn atm.
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Seen mine fail in dual channel but be perfect stable when checked individually.
Doesn't sound too clever though what your talking about Any thoughts on what might cause it ??
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Old 10-03-2008, 22:49
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Beyond me but i have a feeling it's to do with the power..possible overvolting could be a cause.
Serious though have you seen the asus forums about memory problems with the x38 chipset, asus needs to fix this.
Some guy was reporting his memory ran 5c hotter in dual channel which to me says the voltage increased.
Problem with my board each memory stick tests 100% in any dimm but soon as i try both wham errors like mad. Tried auto, tried every bios release, manually set to the most relaxed settings for the timings nothing has helped. No one seems to know whats going off with this board, bios glitch or poor design?. From DMM i know the board overvolts 0.07v+.
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Old 10-03-2008, 23:14
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Are you using tranaction booster ??
I had been running with enabled = 2
I must admit I was thinking about overvolting yesterday so , I checked vdimm with mm was .03 over bios setting, which is about par for the course.with other boiards and a little less than your overvolt.
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Transaction booster i just left on auto for most part..found the board to be very picky about what timings can or can't be used mostly resulting in no p.o.s.t hard power off.
Twister i tried on auto, light, moderate, strong no effect
Command rate 1T or 2T both same effect.
Once you get your ram back post back your finding's, i would test each stick separate 24 hours then go from there.
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yep will see how it goes , what's suprised me a lot is the fluctuations in stability. From my original !st OC - 8x450 @2:1 1800Mhz Memory 19Hr Stable I tried going for 8x470 which was easily doable on the Abit IX38 Qiuad , with 465 x8 on the gigabyte dq6 both stable. Didn't finf the stability, in between i'd come back to the above settings.
Not sure if memory was on it's out then, or what , but the ability to hit a clock that was stable earlier couldn't be maintained.
I tested cpu as i said overnight small ffts , roick solid , 2 days later same settings, failed.

We'll see what happens next week
thanks for the tips kev

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No problems, memory stability is like balancing on knife point with these boards i'm sure you'll find that one out for yourself
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memory stability is like balancing on knife point with these boards i'm sure you'll find that one out for yourself
yep think your right, have just been stabbed
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I run with
mCubed T-Balancer bigNG on my pc , & put temp sensors on the Nb, SB. PWM & memory.

After reading my own temps & reading this ASUS P5E3 Deluxe Overclocking: DDR3 Takes Front Stage
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Originally Posted by above 3rd picture
it is the Northbridge (MCH) that we really worry about. Our testing has shown the X38 chipset to be particularly sensitive to sustained load temperatures in excess of about 50-55C.
I deceided i'd have a go.

I used :-
1) NorthBridge - Swiftech MCW30 Spring mount From my Chipset waterblock.

2) Southbridge -
3) PWMs -
  • M3 25mm bolts - x4
  • M3 Nuts - x8
  • M3 paper or plastic/nylon washers (nonconductive) - x8 .
  • M3 Metal washers - x4. ( or plastic metal just look ok )
  • Springs from original pushpins.
Note: If you have no blocks or anything else, see if you can beg, steal or borrow some springs from other pushpins yo use on NB & SB
Depending on what PCI-E slots you use you might want to use shorter length bolts on the southbridge, M3 15mm perhaps.

3) Lift Heatpipes
You'll need to have mobo removed from case & lift the heatpipes as shown Heatpipes Pics#2~3

4) Fit mounting posts
Note: Always place the non conductive washers next to the motherboard.
4-1) So place non conductive washer on bolt and push bolt through motherboard mounting hole.
4-2) Pop non conductive onto top of bolt so that it's next to motherboard .
4-3) Put nut on bolt and tighten to base of bolt and washer.

you should end up with
Underside

Topside

PWM




5) Clean & Re-paste Southbrige and Northbrige.

Before :-


After :-



I've always followed this guide from my NF4 day's
Angrygamer's Chipset Clean Note: no knives or scrapers, a wad of kichen towel and acetone will shift the gunk. :thumbsup2

6) Mount heatpipes to mounting posts.
Don't force it just push down, i found the pwm & Northbridge went on easily but the southbridge stuck , try gently moving the southbrige mounting posts to fit.
Make sure the blocks are seated on the base of the posts. Pay particular attention to the southbridge as it's quite easy for the long heatpipe between SB & NB to become misaligned.

Goto Part 2

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7) Drop springs over mounting posts

8) Fit nuts and tighten.
There's not much chance of over tightening the Northbridge or Southbridge , provided the heatpipes are mounted level. Just be careful not to overtighten the pwm mounts. I found that's where the springs are useful. once they are fully compressed, that's tight enough.
Note: It's worth covering that pretty Southbridge logo with masking tape or something before tightening to avoid scratches.

Southbridge


Northbridge


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Finally, All Screwed up


Results
Preliminary results (all temps are Idle)
After fitting the Asus fans back on the PWM blocks , temps are down 6~8C Nb & PWM.
Southbridge is down but only by 2~3C. Now I have Lian Li v2000 case so my board is inverted , gfx card to top. I have a suspicion that heat is being transferred to the SB from other areas.
However I had a cunning plan, I know another and added a 40mm fan on top of the southbridge placed on one of the Southbridge mounting posts.
Has significantly reduced temps to 36C
Will revisit these figures when I get my memory back.

Goto Part 1

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Nice job on the refit
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